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What is the purpose of this simulator?
What happens when we slow-down the water flow rate? What would happen if we double the radiator size? What happens to the water temperatures if we change various things? This very useful ‘simulator’ will show you. (See YouTube explanation if you wish)
To get a deeper and intuitive understanding of heat, water flow rates and temperatures, you can ‘play’ with this Simulator to find out.
Fault finding has changed over the years. In many ways servicing has become more efficient. Diagnosis has become very product-specific and often done to laid-down procedures. A downside of this is that engineers are not given the opportunity to go ‘off piste’ and learn for themselves.
Further to simply get people thinking, this teaching aid can also be an extremely useful tool for estimating how much heat your radiators could emit if working at lower (heat pump friendly) temperatures. You just need to list out your radiator types and sizes. [see below for suggestions]
If you want a ‘type-in-the-numbers’ version, go here
Description
The panel radiator is heated by an electric heater via a piped water circuit. You can vary the radiator size and type, the electrical power input, the flow rate, and also the surrounding air temperature The temperatures are calculated from these inputs. Note the room temperature simply changes the temperature that the radiator ‘experiences’. Its not a set-point.
Points to note
- In practice, you can tend to get uneven radiator temperatures (cool patches) with very big radiators. E.g., a 2.5 sq.m. radiator might act more like 2.2 sq.m. due to these ‘cool’ patches
- Long rectangular radiators give out a bit more heat per sqm than square ones.
- The values are good estimates, but check manufacturers data for more specific values.
- The deltaT (difference in temperature) we are considering here is the difference between flow and return water temperatures. The same term is often used to describe the difference between room temperure and radiator temperature (e.g. dt50°). Don’t confuse the two.
Getting started
If you want suggestions to try… re-load the page to get default mid-range values. The water temperatures you see will be what would happen in real life.
Now try changing any one of the above and see what happens to the temperatures.
- With more power input, the radiator gets hotter, and more heat is dissipated to the room.
- If the radiator is bigger, it dissipates the same heat to the room, but at a lower temperature
- When the water flow-rate reduces, the difference between the flow and return (deltaT, dT) increases. The flow-temperature rises and return-temperature drops. Watch the thermometers. Try increasing the heat input and also doubling the flow rate. Watch the dT.
- If the room temperature changes, the radiator temperature changes too. This is simply because the heat delivered depends on the difference in temperure between the radiator and the room air temperature. So, if the temperature is fixed, from a boiler of buffer tank, the heat emitted increases if you open a window and cool the room.
Suggestion
If you have an existing radiator system, and are thinking of adding a heat pump, and are concerned about energy efficiency, then you may want to operate on a relatively low temperature to keep the heat pump efficient
- Go to each radiator and enter the approximate area and radiator type
- Now change the heat input (Kw) until you get an average radiator temperature of say 40°C (e.g. 42.5°C flow and 37.7° return temperatures) (40°C = 104°F)
- Now adjust the flow rate until the dt is about 5 degrees. (9F)
- Note down the heat (kW) and flow rate (lit/min) for this radiator
- Now do this for every radiator in your house
- Total them all up
From this you have estimated how many kW’s of heat you can ‘pump’ into your radiators so that they will operate at an energy-efficient temperature for a heat pump.
You may of course choose to run your heat pump at warmer temperatures, and accept that your COP may not be as good.
Be mindful that some heat pumps are relatively large, so not all systems would work efficiently at such low operating temperatures, due mostly to them stopping and starting a lot.
For anyone still reading.. I thought hard about the inputs and outputs (i.e. should the inputs be area and temperature, giving kW output? or
should the inputs be area and kW heat, giving radiator temperature result.
I concluded that the 2nd option is a better way of thinking about it from a learning point of view. e.g. the circulating water temperature is the final end-result of the various input changes (kWs, area etc)
Also see my Flow & Pressure Drop Simulator and other calculators
It would be lovely if this could be added to include UFH in several of its likely scenarios. I came here to look for UFH ouptput for 100mm 16mm pipe in screed. Keep up the good work
Sorry, I only did radiators, and for the initial concept…. educational tool to learn what happens when you change things, I think a radiator works quite well.
For UH output, I still use the old CIBSI data, or the old ‘Emitter guide’ from MCS
I see that WDS have it on their website. https://www.wdsgreenenergy.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/MIS_3005_Heat_Emitter_Guide.pdf
Quite a useful simple document. Thanks WDS